Bigfoot rebuild

[Kevin Rochon]

Ok took apart the fuse. Here is a comparison of #1(upside down, engine box still there) and #2. Tested the electronic all is fine. Oh BTW the spinner didn't make it after all:(

With the new engine box kit from 3DHS at ProRC it's not going to be too hard to fix, probably would of done that if it was available at the first crash.

[mdauth]

To bad 3dhs doesn't have the same policy as Pilot, they will replace all damaged wood to rebuild for free, just pay shipping.

http://www.rccanada.ca/rccforum/showthread.php?t=205756&highlight=pilot+rebuild

[Sempai-mj]

A podiatrist, also called a doctor of podiatric medicine, is a specialist who provides medical diagnosis, treatment and repairs of Big Foot !:D:D

[briankizner]

good one, MJ. I've got to admire Kevin's determination- like the coyote chasing Road Runner.

[zorba]

good one, MJ. I've got to admire Kevin's determination- like the coyote chasing Road Runner.

Yea but BIG FOOT will ever survive...cause the coyote never caught road runner;)

[Kevin Rochon]

Hope it's not like Roadrunner cause he got caught!

Wile E. Coyote - YouTube

[Kevin Rochon]

Finally they received the props(22x8) so should get my stuff(new cowl, front formers) next week.

[Kevin Rochon]

While I wait for my parts to come in I finally got the enthusiasm to start fixing the wings. So I started with the worst one, which is the left one of the first crash(the right one is ok)

[Sempai-mj]

Good one Kevin, get it back in the air!

[Kevin Rochon]

Work on that Beaver(plane) Michael;)

[Sempai-mj]

Work on that Beaver(plane) Michael;)

Walk by it everyday back and forth to work, I give it a look shaking my head 3lbs of weight in the nose. %%#%^^%#}{

[Kevin Rochon]

Walk by it everyday back and forth to work, I give it a look shaking my head 3lbs of weight in the nose. %%#%^^%#}{

Put some helium in the tail:rolleyes:

[Kevin Rochon]

Some more work and it seems, as I ear the thunder, that I will work on it tomorrow too. Hey Dan I have some needles too:D

[flybyfaith]

Will you repair both planes or make one out of the two.

[mitea_dan]

,,Hey Dan I have some needles too.''

:D

[Kevin Rochon]

Will you repair both planes or make one out of the two.


I will fix both. The wing I'm fixing is from the 1st plane, the 2nd set of wings is fine except one of the blind-nut that hold the strut came off, easy fix.

The first fuse was damaged in the bottom only but the second has all the front end beat up. So in getting the motor box kit I will use it mainly for the 2nd fuse but copy what I need for the 1st.:wacky:

I will probably set-up one of them with floats and keep the other for Big wheels and skis.

[beto9]

I will fix both. The wing I'm fixing is from the 1st plane, the 2nd set of wings is fine except one of the blind-nut that hold the strut came off, easy fix.

The first fuse was damaged in the bottom only but the second has all the front end beat up. So in getting the motor box kit I will use it mainly for the 2nd fuse but copy what I need for the 1st.:wacky:

I will probably set-up one of them with floats and keep the other for Big wheels and skis.

....and in all those plans do not forget to use 100% flaps continuously!

[mdauth]

That's good, Now you can have one electric and the other gas!!!!:D:D

[Kevin Rochon]

100% flap up or down:D

Gasser:confused::confused: It's easy enough to switch the ELECTRIC power plant;)

[Kevin Rochon]

ok more work. I also fixed the strut hold down on the 2nd wing set. Damage was the same as the first.

[Kevin Rochon]

Well I was on fire, so I finished both wings. So now I have 2 good sets of wings. The fuse repair won't be as easy:(

[pierre sarault]

Attention to detail, determination, focus...now lets see the magic applied to the fuselages...I'm sure it will turn out great!

[Sempai-mj]

Rainy day inspiration! Nice work Kevin.

[zorba]

Yea Kevin, awesome work, I think we got too much time on our hands.

[flybyfaith]

Some times the hardest part is just getting started. Very nice work, you will see it will be done in no time. Have you received the motor box yet.

[Kevin Rochon]

I have 2 packages I'm waiting for, the motor box kit and new Zurich sunglasses.

And darn it I saw something new yesterday....well I better not talk about it, it might lead to something else....:no:

[zorba]

You're no good in keeping secrets Kevin, so, let's have it.

[Kevin Rochon]

No no Billy it's going to have to stay on the back burner. 2 Bigfoot to repair and let's not forget the Harvard.

Let's see those Stearman wings.

[Kevin Rochon]

Got my stuff today. I thought I had to pay for the neoprene cases(10$ ea) but they were included, even with a soft cloth to clean. I got 2 sets a pink for flying in cloudy day or heli side, and a dark one for the plane side in the sun.

I was happily surprise for the motor box kit, it came with much more parts then it showed in the picture. I put it together dry just to show the good fit.

[Kevin Rochon]

Tonight I emptied the fuse to get it ready to install the new parts. The thing that doesn't come with the kit of course is the 2 sides because they run the length of the fuse. On this one they are still ok except a little damage but on the other one (2nd crash) it is in very bad shape even, with another motor box kit it's going to take a lot of time to fix. We'll see.

[Sempai-mj]

Tonight I emptied the fuse to get it ready to install the new parts. The thing that doesn't come with the kit of course is the 2 sides because they run the length of the fuse. On this one they are still ok except a little damage but on the other one (2nd crash) it is in very bad shape even, with another motor box kit it's going to take a lot of time to fix. We'll see.
You can do it, one foot at a time!:D

[Kevin Rochon]

yes but those are BIG shoes to fill:D

[Kevin Rochon]

A little bit of work between work in the garage and laundry etc...

That's the floor that has a balsa doubler glued and then cut out the formers slots and others.

[Kevin Rochon]

Did some work tonight and from the forecast for tomorrow and Sunday seems I'm going to be able to do a lot on the Bigfoot.

Glued the top cabin and added plywood that was gone from behind the wing tube and side cabin top former.

[dhamultun]

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[Kevin Rochon]

Got a spare one;)

It doesn't look like much but I did make some part for the bottom of the dash, I also made the tracing for the one for the other Bigfoot, you can see the black dash is what was left. I also fix the side door frame.

On these part I use a bit thicker ply(actually I don't have the same thickness they use) and make a lap joint. It ad's to the strength.

Oh yes that red spot is my blood:eek:

[Sempai-mj]

Nice work, A+ for the blood:eek:

[flybyfaith]

Looking good all that is missing now is some sweat and tears and it will be all done.:) What kind of glue are you using?

[Kevin Rochon]

All kinds, Aliphatic wood glue, epoxies 5min. 30 min and flex 30min, also some CA.

[Kevin Rochon]

Finally glued the formers and my hands tonight:) Tomorrow will finish the bottom stringers and sheeting and hopefully do the covering...we'll see.

[Kevin Rochon]

Finally taking the time to post the progress. It takes some time because I'm using wood glue. I only had sheeting that is thicker than the original so I will have to sand a bit.

[Dwight Macdonald]

Looking good! What % is new material?

[Kevin Rochon]

Well the formers and floor is new and the sheeting. The sides survived enough to be used, only a few repaired cracks. The fuse on the right is the one I'm working on. The formers you see are former formers:D I had to take them out.

The #2 fuse(the one on the left) is more damaged, will have to work harder on those sides.

[Kevin Rochon]

Some more sheeting done. When dry it's sanding time:rolleyes:

[Kevin Rochon]

Did most of the sanding, shaped the openings and put some light weight putty.

It's starting to look like a Bigfoot again:)

[mdauth]

Nice work, are you planing to put skies on for the winter??

[dhamultun]

Looking good Kevin!

[Burning Head]

Finishing a ARF...that's easy job. Working on a Kit...need alot of dexterity. But rebuild a plane with scrash material. wow, je te leve mon chapeau Kevin,bravo

[Andrew Fernie]

Probably better built now than when it came from the factory. Good job Kevin.

[Kevin Rochon]

Thanks guys!

Yes Michel I will put BigSkis on it, But I've seen someone fly it with the big wheels on snow, just put the flaps down and it takes off on 2 or 3 snowflakes:D

[Kevin Rochon]

Started the covering today, did the white, not easy with the curves had to mainly use the heat gun. The bit of wrinkle came of with more heat gun plus the stripping will cover most of it, of course won't be like new I would of had to recover the whole thing.

[Kevin Rochon]

Finished the stripes tonight just have to re-install the windshield than the electronics.

[Eladio]

Du beau Travail Kevin!!
Felicitations

[pierre sarault]

Kevin, congratulations ...nice work...can't wait to see the finished products!

[Kevin Rochon]

Well went upstairs late last night and was thinking about it, might has well put on the Windshield doesn't take too long, so went back in the workshop:rolleyes:

Just removed the clamps.

[Dwight Macdonald]

Good job Kevin! Did you ever think of starting a business to repair damaged model aircraft?!

[Kevin Rochon]

It would be like undertaking, never run out of business:D

[MidnightHeli]

It would be like undertaking, never run out of business:D

How many hours did you take to do this?

[Kevin Rochon]

Hum.... when it's done with LOVE who's counting;)

[MidnightHeli]

Hum.... when it's done with LOVE who's counting;)

That's for sure.... but just wondering if it could be a a worthy business sideline, charging about 15 an hour for repairs and doing something that I would enjoy.

[mdauth]

That's for sure.... but just wondering if it could be a a worthy business sideline, charging about 15 an hour for repairs and doing something that I would enjoy.

Some people do it, not sure it pays but think of it that way you get to build beautiful projects and you don't need to fund them. You can follow some of his treads on RcCanada (Trevor Brums)

http://www.bbtbuildservices.blogspot.ca/

[Kevin Rochon]

That's for sure.... but just wondering if it could be a a worthy business sideline, charging about 15 an hour for repairs and doing something that I would enjoy.


I did it before a few times building ARF for some people and even finished a 1/3 scale Cub and the floats, but the people willing to pay for this is not too common.

[Kevin Rochon]

Well it's back on it's BIG feet, also installed the motor box.

[David Janashvili]

Well it's back on it's BIG feet, also installed the motor box.

Hi Kevin,
Did you get new frame??? :):):)

[Kevin Rochon]

Hi Kevin,
Did you get new frame??? :):):)

No not yet I missed the container so it will have to be in the next one so another 6 weeks but I can always start fixing the side frames on the next one. It's in worst shape than the first one(the one on the left).

[Andrew Fernie]

No not yet I missed the container so it will have to be in the next one so another 6 weeks but I can always start fixing the side frames on the next one. It's in worst shape than the first one(the one on the left).

Keep it for those long winter nights. Always good to have something in the backlog to work on.

[Burning Head]

Look like the thirteen labors of hercules;)

[Kevin Rochon]

Just got news the news part almost doubled in price, fortunately they agreed to leave the cowl at the previous price because I had reserved it.

Will post some pictures of the progress a bit later.

[Kevin Rochon]

Ok so I put on the motor, the cowl and the spinner. I had to hit the balsa with a hammer at the bottom edge because it is thicker than the original so the cowl was really tight; should have tried it before covering.:rolleyes:

Left to do, install the door, needs a magnet at the bottom lost in crash. Do all the servo ext routing. Install the RX and the battery velcro. So all probably on Sunday.

[Kevin Rochon]

So I put that magnet and installed the door. Also passed the extension wires and glued the tubes for those and for the antenna of the RX.

[Kevin Rochon]

Installed the brace and almost a disaster the blind nut on the bottom of the fuse on the RH side(hard to reach) fell off when I was trying to put the screw in:eek: Well I got it back in and glued it with a very long and small long nose pliers and some contortion on my part, so as the other side.

Lesson learned on the 2nd rebuild I will glue them before assembling.

So now it is pretty much ready, maybe just cleaning it. Hope it's nice on the W-E.

(don't read this Albert;))Oh yesterday I programmed the crow function (flaps down ailerons up) I used that in my Ultra-stick before. You do a hammer head then put it on and come down very slowly or do a loop on take off and put it on at the top position and land slowly.

[beto9]

(don't read this Albert;))Oh yesterday I programmed the crow function (flaps down ailerons up) I used that in my Ultra-stick before. You do a hammer head then put it on and come down very slowly or do a loop on take off and put it on at the top position and land slowly.

Oh god, another rebuild!!! I will not allow any more postings on Bigfoot rebuild.
Why don't you go at it with a 2x4 in the ground and we are done?

[Burning Head]

:Dgood one

[Kevin Rochon]

Oh god, another rebuild!!! I will not allow any more postings on Bigfoot rebuild.
Why don't you go at it with a 2x4 in the ground and we are done?


OK but a Balsa 2 x 4:D

[Kevin Rochon]

So we just don't see only Bigfoot(there will be a break before I start the other one) would be nice to see Billy's progress if any? Stearman... Mustang?

[Kevin Rochon]

Before taking it apart to clean it decided to test the motor with the prop on. I noticed a wobble I though it was the new spinner maybe not sitting properly but after taking everything off, it is the shaft. It is not much but don't want to damage anything. I had tested the motor before to see if it and the ESC still working but didn't notice that, it's obvious with the prop.

So I ordered from Aero-Model a new shaft and bearings(in case).

Minor setback:mad:

[Kevin Rochon]

Got my new shaft today. I put it in the freezer to downsize it and to make it easier to put in. I have to put it in with a hammer but I got to line up a screw hole, it's not going to be easy.

[Kevin Rochon]

Well it's done, wasn't so bad after all. Beside putting the shaft in the freezer I warmed up the outer shell of the motor with a regular lamp which has a reg. bulb, so heat generating. I was able to push it by hand most of the way then I used a hammer with a piece of soft wood.

I had to fiddle around a bit to line up the screw hole but it's done. Tested the motor and now it's turning perfectly.

Will put it back in the Bigfoot tomorrow, maybe a re-maiden this W-E?

[zorba]

You mean you heated up the outer shell where the magnets are?
If so then get yourself a new motor.

[mdauth]

With a lamp. Shouldn't get hotter then after a 7 min. flight on a hot day.


You mean you heated up the outer shell where the magnets are?
If so then get yourself a new motor.

[zorba]

In flight you have air rushing in.

[mdauth]

In flight you have air rushing in.


My Slick is pretty hot after landing, the hacker's are known to run hot, to the point where you can barely keep your figures on it

[Kevin Rochon]

Don't worry Billy it was just warm to he touch, I was handling it to put the shaft in.

[antoine zabal]

hello Kevin
Just for your information. Check the link below

bought this plane. brought it to Wimac in the box.

8 screws , one battery and 20 minutes later it was flying....like a rocket on 6 cells.

Am I missing something here?

http://www.e-fliterc.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=EFL10250

[Kevin Rochon]

Not sure what's your point Antoine? These are 2 completely different kind of planes and my thread is about a rebuild after a crash.....you can make one too if you crash yours:D (hope not)

Speaking of rebuild I re-installed the motor tonight and after I installed the prop and the spinner I tried it and there was a wobble? So took of the spinner and notice the safety nut was wobbling and without it it was ok so found another one but I notice the new spinner is not 100% it wobble slightly(probably in the manufacture).

But now my EC5 connector is cracked so the black wire keeps popping off. So I will have o change it and to do that I have to remove the ESC because those connectors have to be banged in the casing and can't do it in the plane:mad:


That is why I can't make it tomorrow night if I want to fly it Saturday.

[antoine zabal]

Ok now I get it.
I thought you were just building a new plane.
It looks like it was quite a task.
Sorry about the crash.
I have half a dozen of crash projets. I will post them eventually.