View Full Version : Slowing down big planes.
beto9
2013-01-14, 05:23 PM
All the large planes flyers at WIMAC have problems slowing them after landing.
I have noticed before that the landings are made past the 1/3 of the runway, giving you not much of a runway left.
The closeness of the trees at both ends makes this landing approaches sometimes inevitable.
Short of fitting your planes with brakes there is another solution to all who possess a fairly sophisticated transmitter: air brakes!. Look for that function in your transmitter. You only need your ailerons to be in different channels...
Right after landing deploy them and your plane will slow down very efficiently.
If you don't have air brakes in your radio... well, I am sorry, you don't have a Futaba radio but... maybe you can install reverse flaperons....
We will also modify our runway to have a section of grass (smooth) at both ends for those who usually rip their landing gear off...
C'mon guys, we are gadget freaks and should use all the gizmoids in your Tx!
From Albert Labs # 4
Burning Head
2013-01-14, 06:28 PM
Good tip Albert:) autre ajout,Il y a aussi le bloquage de la roue du train arriere "tail wheel blocking " good on the tarmark , the tech is simple at long terme. Using the elev as a pumping-breack on the lock tail wheel soon after the ground touch. Well you maybe think that sound weard but it work;) I learned this one from Ray:cool: few years ago when he was flying his 40% or higher% during hurley spring at the Wimac. I don't remember the weight of the planes maybe 45lbs:D
Sempai-mj
2013-01-14, 06:39 PM
I used to use that with my Decathlon, it does work well.
Kevin Rochon
2013-01-14, 09:43 PM
When I was flying my Cap 232 it was not as light as my Extra 50cc so I had to come in a bit faster so I used springs on the wheel axles in between washers and the wheel and the wheel collar it would help slow it down without preventing it from taking off properly. Real cheap solution;)
But on the other hand we tend to come in too fast.
mitea_dan
2013-01-14, 11:59 PM
Dans le plan original du Astro-Hog il y a un très intéressant, après moi, bien sûr, frein.
loflyer2001
2013-01-15, 08:55 PM
Threshold speed is of utmost importance when landing.
beto9
2013-01-16, 10:00 AM
Dans le plan original du Astro-Hog il y a un très intéressant, après moi, bien sûr, frein.
Dan, I do not see the brake in the drawings... explain please!
mdauth
2013-01-16, 11:21 AM
Dan, I do not see the brake in the drawings... explain please!
Albert, I think that the the rod where it says neoprene coupler pushes on the wheel to block it, you can see the pivoting arm in the plane that works with a servo.
beto9
2013-01-16, 01:27 PM
Albert, I think that the the rod where it says neoprene coupler pushes on the wheel to block it, you can see the pivoting arm in the plane that works with a servo.
Thanks! It doesn't look too efficient especially since it works on the tailwheel.
zorba
2013-01-16, 09:57 PM
I agree with Albert, The area of the tail wheel touching the ground is not enough to stop it. Put a bush plane wheel on it.:rolleyes:
Dwight Macdonald
2013-01-17, 01:42 AM
I had the airbrake (or spoileron) function on my ill fated 42% Extra 260 ... both ailerons would go up together ... very effective. Just be sure the wheels are on the ground before deploying ... or the plane will slam into the ground and bend the gear ... or worse.
Ronald Longtin
2013-01-17, 11:24 AM
En parlant d'atterrissage...
Voici en détail l’atterrissage d'un avion de Lufthansa qui arrive à San Francisco.
Le tout a été filmé dans les moindres détails, avec les commentaires provenant de la tour de contrôle.
Ce visionnement vous aidera à comprendre la complexité de la chose, mais en même temps, vous serez en mesure de constater la grande technologie qui assure notre sécurité.
Le plein écran est de rigueur, car nous avons droit à de belles images de San Francisco.
Ça dure 14 :25 minutes mais ç’en vaut la peine.
http://www.wimp.com/approachlanding/
beto9
2013-01-17, 12:53 PM
Extremely interesting! Those pilots surely earn their salaries on the last 20 minutes of every flight.
The information input is overwhelming even with a clear day landing, not much traffic, etc.
Now, what will happen to our "Dreamairplanes" and their Li-ion batteries? Will we be grounded?
Burning Head
2013-01-17, 01:30 PM
Wow:cool: super video.
Glenn Hole
2013-01-17, 02:18 PM
What a Great video Ronald thanks.:)
zorba
2013-01-17, 05:03 PM
It looks like the Gopro Hero cameras are everywhere.
Thanks Ronald
Cheers
Sempai-mj
2013-01-17, 07:49 PM
En parlant d'atterrissage...
Voici en détail l’atterrissage d'un avion de Lufthansa qui arrive à San Francisco.
Le tout a été filmé dans les moindres détails, avec les commentaires provenant de la tour de contrôle.
Ce visionnement vous aidera à comprendre la complexité de la chose, mais en même temps, vous serez en mesure de constater la grande technologie qui assure notre sécurité.
Le plein écran est de rigueur, car nous avons droit à de belles images de San Francisco.
Ça dure 14 :25 minutes mais ç’en vaut la peine.
http://www.wimp.com/approachlanding/
Check the use of the rudder just after 8:43 at the threshold.
Nice video, thanks Ronald.
Kevin Rochon
2013-01-17, 09:20 PM
Very nice, almost as good a landing as Mick used to do with his A380;)
Eladio
2013-01-18, 03:30 PM
Love it :)
Merci Ronald !!
Sempai-mj
2013-01-18, 04:48 PM
Here's a cool trick for front brakes.
:)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=kggzcY9hg_4
Flying73
2013-01-18, 04:59 PM
Unfortunately that's a slow trainer that doesn't need brakes!
Sempai-mj
2013-01-18, 11:28 PM
http://dronepedia.com/index.php?title=Parachute_landing
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